The Bothan Spy

Barrie Holland
Interview

Published Aug 07, 2006

"You Rebel Scum"

Those three simple words are enough to bring people back in time, and is instantly associated with the Rebel's capture in the Endor bunker in ROTJ. Such a simple phrase, but considered one of the most classic in a series of classic quotes from the Original Star Wars trilogy.

What then makes this line so memorable? A large part of that is in the delivery. That comes straight from the actor who portrayed that famous Imperial Officer, Lt. Renz, Mr. Barrie Holland. The Bothan Spy was fortunate enough to sit down with Mr. Holland and ask him to reflect on his memories of Return of the Jedi, along with his work in other fan favorite films such as the Indiana Jones trilogy and Batman. Mr. Holland was a very gracious person with a great deal of memories to share and some very interesting notes on other aspects of his career that many of you may not have been aware of.

Please, sit back and discover as we did the many fascinating aspects of Mr. Holland's career.

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You are known within the industry as Barrie Hollywood. Who first called you this, and was it related to any specific time or incident?

Because I had the knack over the years of picking up small speaking parts and special action sequences with famous Actors , one of my friends with his great Jewish humour nicknamed me 'Barrie Hollywood' and it stuck....I used to have a lot of leg-pulling about it but it paid off in the end. I gave up trying to live it down and just went along with it...it stood me in good stead...I was even registered with one Film Agent as Barrie Hollywood because he had a dancer on his books who's name was 'Barry Holland' and I couldn't use my own name.

What were some of your early influences in choosing a career as an actor, and did you ever get to work with your childhood idols?

When I was a small boy my late father introduced me to the cinema and took me on a regular basis. He loved 'Westerns' and I soon became addicted to them as well. England was a very austere place in those days, during and directly after the Second World War, and the only glamour one had was a visit to the cinema where you could forget about the aftermath of the War and dream on....I just wanted to be up there with Alan Ladd, Errol Flynn, Tyrone Power, Humphrey Bogart, having all that fun and fame and getting paid for it. It seemed light years away from the world which I grew up in. The main influences were from all of those old Hollywood movies of the Forties when Stars were Stars and seemed to live in a magical world of make believe...you would come away from the Cinema thinking you could be a Cowboy, a Pirate, a Gangster and have all those adventures surrounded by all of those beautiful ladies...whow! YES, I worked with Richard Widmark, Robert Preston, Vincent Price, James Cagney, Sterling Hayden to name but a few .. not one of them was ever a disappointment to me... to see full list please refer to my Website. www.barrie-hollywood.co.uk...I would have loved to have met Alan Ladd, John Garfield, Burt Lancaster, George Raft, plus many others and all of those top Cowboy heroes...like Randolph Scott, Gary Cooper, James Stewart, John Wayne, Glenn Ford and Joel McCrea but unfortunately never did, despite all of those years in the business....!

It wasn't a straight jump into films. You served both in the British military and at an automotive factory before you began your career in entertainment. How did you make the jump from these experiences into showbiz, and did they have any impact on the direction your career took?

I did some amateur stagework when I was a teenager before going into the Army for National Service and upon returning to civilian life I landed a position as Photographic Controller in the Publicity Dept of Vauxhall Motors where I arranged all of the car photography for brochures, posters etc and arranged TV Filmlets. I would book the models, photographers and locations and go out to get the job done. This gave me good contacts in London with top Model Agencies of the time and some years later on becoming redundant moved on into that field and then into movies. My Website ..www.barrie-hollywood.co.uk ..explains this in more detail.

Many people are probably unaware that you were a male model before you became a film actor. Can you describe that time in your life, and maybe share some stories for us?

Back in 1967 when I left my Public Relations position at Vauxhall Motors I moved into the world of Modelling..because of the great contacts I had made during this time I was taken on the books of a couple of top Model Agencies in the West End of London. Although I actually did a six-week course at the then London Academy of Modelling to learn how to do Fashion Shows properly, in fact I eventually went to teach for them on a part-time basis several years later. Over the years I did Fashion Shows and Photographic Modelling. For a list of some of my work during this period please refer to the end of my Website. It was also a lot of fun particularly being surrounded by those beautiful gals!!! Looking back I think sometimes it was a bit pretentious.!...a lot of my friends not in the business used to pull my leg about it but at the end of the day I had the last laugh..! It was money for 'old rope'...just standing around 'posing' but it eventually opened up the door to enable me to get into the Film business and become a Movie Actor..which was all I ever wanted to do...of course, like Film Auditions you didn't get every job you went for...there were probably as many disappointments as there were successes...but I loved it. During my years at Vauxhall, I was known as 'The Tailor's Dummy' because I was always dressed up like 'James Bond' ..I used to wear a different suit every day for two weeks and then start again..whereas most of the other Executives would wear the same old tired suit day in and day out...it wasn't a show-off thing, it was just me feeling comfortable..but it got me noticed..! I was always very influenced by all of those old Forties Actors with their D/B suits and pocket handerchiefs....you can blame Alan Ladd for that..! Ha! Ha! I remember once in 1967 I was going around seeing Photographers in London and I didn't bother to call in to see my Agent of the time..coming home later, hot and bothered, my girlfriend of the day told me that the Agent had been trying to get hold of me all day long...so the next morning I rang him early and found that he had wanted me to do a Fashion Show in Germany for four days, the Air tickets were on his desk but as he couldn't contact me so he gave the job to another Model. I was very disappointed at the time but I found later that day that my Passport was out of date...so that would have been even more embarrassing. You must realise that in those days, before the barriers were down in Europe you couldn't get a Passport renewed at short notice like you can today, so either way I would have missed out.

One can assume that if nothing else, modelling would give you an advantage entering the film business, as it is partial training in learning how to look before a camera. Are there any other ways in which modelling benefitted you in the transition to film work?

There is no doubt about it that Modelling can be very beneficial in the transition to Film work .....it was for me anyway...you learned how to carry yourself properly and to always be upright and not slouch.... great deportment....and gave you good dress sense and the ability to wear clothes with ease and to always look smart...it taught you how to co-ordinate clothes so that everything matched...and it gave you a lot of confidence in front of other people and the Camera...also it was a great teacher in how to look at the Camera. The British Actor Dirk Bogarde once said in a Radio interview that Alan Ladd taught him the secret of film acting...that it was the way in which you looked at the camera...! One learns all the time in this business but having worked in Public Relations the other side of the Camera, Photographic and Fashion Modelling and Films and Television , there is no doubt in my mind that working in all of these areas has contributed to my ability to obtaining some measure of success in my chosen career.

What was your first film, and can you recall any stories you would like to share about that experience? What was your role in that film?

I went to a Casting for a Model Agency for a small part in The Greek Tycoon as a party guest on a yacht to do a scene with Anthony Quinn but there were some internal politics at the time and it didn't materialise...so much for great acting! Ha! Ha! Turned out the Asst. Director had stuck a friend of his in before I got there...often, it's who you know ...? but truthfully, I was quite annoyed at the time and had a row with the Asst. Director....didn't do me any harm though..I have always been very professional (although I had a lot of fun) and like to be treated as such. I will not take second best from anyone.

In Return of the Jedi (ROTJ), you play an Imperial Officer in the Imperial bunker on Endor named Lt. Renz. Your screen time was short, but you said one of the most remembered lines in the trilogy when you captured Han Solo, Princess Leia, and Chewbacca, and said the immortal line "You Rebel Scum!" Can you describe any memories of filming that scene?

It was a lot of fun to do but required very precise timing as it was a small set and it took one and a half days to shoot I remember Harrison said" let's go and have a coffee and discuss how we should do this."..as there were too many 'Indian Chiefs' telling us how to do it from the Cameraman to the Director to the Asst. Director..etc.....I had to run onto the set with seven Stormtroopers although in the new version you only ever see five...I have to be there when he turns to catch another satchel bomb but turns into my gun instead...if I get there too late he turns into empty air..and if I get there too early my gun is in his back...he is on the move remember not just standing there waiting for me...also all of my Stormtroopers are having to take their marks...their general vision is impaired like a horse wearing blinkers so they are relying on me to get it right...I had a timing light and it would buzz and I would count to so many seconds and then run into the set with my men.....you are also working to the camera frame and if you get the wrong position Harrison may step back out of frame or vice versa..not a long sequence but a very difficult one to get right...but all was well in the end..when we first rehearsed and I said "You Rebel Scum" Harrison said, "What did you call me?" and laughing, playfully slapped my face lightly...the rest is history.

That line has become such an enduring piece of dialogue that LucasFilm actually put a trademark on it. What kind of feeling does this create? It must seem very surreal at times.

I must admit I never thought all these years later that it would become a 'Cult Line' .....it was just another job at the time ..as the great James Cagney once said.."To put the groceries on the table"......it is weird how things come around isn't it...? ...24 years later.

You obviously spent time working directly with stars Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, and Peter Mayhew. Are there any interesting stories concerning them that our readers may find interesting?

Sorry, but not that I can think of, I remember Carrie was very nice as was Mark Hamill and everyone else. Of course I see Dave Prowse and Kenny Baker and some of the other main Actors quite often at the Celebrity Shows...great guys...although I did meet Peter Mayhew for the first time in years at a Lucasfilm party in Indianapolis, U.S.A. at C3......last year, hadn't spoken to him for twenty three years.

ROTJ was a very tightly closed set, with George Lucas going so far as to use the fake name Blue Harvest during filming to deter fans and media alike from interrupting production. Have you ever worked on another film with security this tight, and did it make filming awkward at all? What are your memories of George Lucas?

I never met George Lucas while filming 'Jedi' but I did meet him the following year while I was working on 'Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom' in 1983 at EMI Studios, England. I stopped him in a corridor during a break in filming (I worked on it for two weeks) to ask him if I could get any photographs taken on the set of 'Jedi' the year before (1982) by the Stills Photographer which I had been promised but did not materialise. He was great and arranged for me to get two sets of rare pics taken at the time during filming...from his Publicity Head in California..he is very quiet, modest and a perfect gentleman..a thoughtful man with charm and courtesy.

While instantly familiar, the scene in the bunker is not the only scene in which you appear. You also accompany Darth Vader in a scene on the Death Star, and are present during the arrival of the Emperor. Were all of these shots done in a short time, or were you called back several times during production to film these? In the Emperor's arrival scene, it looked like there were a lot of extras in Stormtrooper costumes, and it took place in a large hangar. How many extras were on hand just to shoot that scene, and was the hangar built to full scale, or was it only a partial set?

From what I remember they took several days to shoot. I think it was a very large Stage and there were many 'Extras' in costumes....sorry but it was a long time ago and I can't recall much about the set only that it was enormous with lots of Officers in the Grey uniform and Stormtroopers.

Star Wars was just the tip of the iceberg in a long list of films you appear in. I would like to ask you some questions about the many other movies you have played parts in.

ROTJ was not the only time you worked with Harrison Ford and George Lucas on a film. You had a small part in Raiders of the Lost Ark, in which you portrayed the man who boxed up the Ark in the American warehouse. It continued in Temple of Doom when you played a bar patron who kicks the diamond from the reach of Kate Capshaw and a musician who had to jump out of the path of the runaway gong, and concluded in the Last Crusade where you played a Nazi customs official at the airport. Can you describe your experiences on the sets of the Indiana Jones trilogy? Is there a different feel when you are returning to a familiar franchise to shoot sequels, or does each film feel as fresh as the ones that preceded it?

Each one feels different to me..my favourite was working on 'Temple of Doom' as I spent two weeks in the Night Club at the beginning..the first week was on the first unit with Harrison and Steven Spielberg and the second week was on the second unit with the Director Frank Marshall doing bits and pieces...I had met Frank on 'Raiders' four years earlier and it was he who gave me the job of kicking the stone away from Kate Capshaw ..once again it was a difficult piece of timing...he is a very pleasant Director to work with as is Steven Spielberg who I have had the pleasure of working with four times, on the 'Indiana Jones Trilogy' and 'Empire of the Sun'. Both of these Directors treat all Artistes with great courtesy and it was always a pleasure to meet and work with them. Directors do not come any better believe me.

You have worked in over 200 films to date. Among these are some true fan favourites and classics, such as, besides ROTJ and Indiana Jones, Batman (1989), The Greek Tycoon, Best Picture Oscar winner Chariots of Fire, The French Lieutenant's Woman, Aliens, A Fish Called Wanda, Superman I, III, and IV, and several James Bond films. Which film are you most proud of personally, and do you have any stories you would like to share concerning these?

They were mostly just other small acting jobs..there was a lot of work around in those days and you tended to go from one film to another at short notice unless you had bigger roles which might take a couple of weeks to shoot..'Batman' was probably my favourite as I had a dialogue scene with Billy Dee Williams and the late Pat Hingle in Wayne Manor...I live literally 30 yards away from the back entrance to Hatfield House in a 16th Century building...as you probably know Hatfield House was used for the interiors of Wayne Manor in Tim Burton's film whereas the exteriors were filmed further up the County of Hertfordshire at Knebworth House because of the Gothic Architecture of the building giving it an ideal look for Wayne Manor from the outside....

Obviously, with so many films to your credit, the list of top stars you have worked with reads like a who's who of Hollywood. Among others, you have worked with Alan Ladd, James Cagney, Harrison Ford, Robert De Niro, Jack Nicholson, Sean Connery, Anthony Hopkins, Vincent Price, Meryl Streep, Sophia Loren, and Kim Basinger. Who is the person you have most enjoyed acting with, and have you retained any friendships over the years as a result of working with them?

I did work with all of the above with the exception of the late Alan Ladd who was my boyhood favourite and who had written to me for years when I was younger, before his untimely passing at the tender age of 50...it was always a big disappointment for me that I never met or worked with him..he was such a great guy..so faithful to his fans..not many Actors like him..he was a great role model for me to remember how to treat all the fans when I go to Shows..I have several really personal letters from him in the Fifties...plus many private family photos you never see printed anywhere... and other memorabilia..he was a truly great Star...a very underrated film Actor, never given the credit he deserved...other favourites from the above list would be Vincent Price who was another of the best Actors you could ever meet..what a nice man..we had a lot of fun together during a week's filming on 'The Monster Club' in 1980....he used to make me laugh, particularly early in the morning at the Studio, as we shared the same Make-up Artist..the late Roy Ashton, another very pleasant man..there was only Roy, Vincent and myself..in the Make-up room and Vincent would tell all of these funny stories..it was a fun film to work on. I kept in touch with Vincent until his passing in 1993...he was a wonderful Actor. It was one of my fondest memories ever of all of the films I worked on. Anthony Hopkins is another favourite of mine having worked with him five times over the years..in ''The Elephant Man' 'The Hunchback of Notre Dame' 'Mutiny on the Bounty' 'The Good Father' and another TV Best- seller..the title which escapes me for the moment...I had some very interesting conversations with him as to how he would approach a particular role..a very pleasant man...we are the same age..Meryl Streep was very nice but just had a small conversation with her..in between scenes...Sophia Loren was fabulous, a very gracious lady..I was madly in love with her image for years...she is as beautiful in real life as she is in films but beautiful inside as well as out...one of the best Actresses I ever had the pleasure to work with and meet. What real man could ever forget her in 'El Cid' ...how I used to envy Charlton Heston..and there I was sitting next to her on the set talking about movies...WHOW! ..what an experience...! Finally, I did work with the late great James Cagney for three weeks on 'Ragtime'...I had the pleasure of being taken to meet him in the Restaurant at Shepperton Studios in England in 1980 for a private conversation. He was the Chief-of-Police in the film and I was one of his Pinkerton Detectives.. A real class Actor..... a great favourite of mine for years. Other great favourites, who I was lucky to meet and work with were Robert Preston, Steve Forrest, Gene Hackman, Robert Duvall, James Mason among many others over the years...I had some great conversations with all of them but let's not forget the ladies...Joan Collins was great, we share the same Birthday....I have already mentioned some above but there were many others....see my Website.

I notice that you have mentioned the late Paramount Film Star Alan Ladd several times in this interview. He seems to have had a great influence in your life and in your career choice. Did you know that his son Alan Ladd, Jr. was instrumental in backing George Lucas to get Star Wars into production, and that without his help it may have never happened?

Yes I did, it's very strange how my liaison with ALAN LADD over the years has come around...I had been a big fan of his since I was a boy in the Forties having communicated with him personally for some years during the Fifties and the early Sixties and now forty two years after his passing I am now appearing as a 'Guest Actor' courtesy of his first son ALAN LADD, Jr. So once again the name 'ALAN LADD' has had an effect upon my life. Even by pure coincidence my area postcode is AL 9 5 AL ....WEIRD!...and I once had a Car. Reg. No. A328 G LA...once again pure coincidence.!..his 'ghost' appears to be looking over my shoulder always...! Who would have ever thought all those years ago that his influence would one day be instrumental in getting me some recognition in the Film World as a 'Celebrity Actor.'

You have also worked for an impressive list of directors throughout your career. Names such as Steven Spielberg, Tim Burton, Stanley Kubrick, John Frankenheimer, and Blake Edwards are just some of the legendary directors you have been directed by. Directors are known to be anywhere from relaxed and quiet to loud and overbearing to eccentric. Who was the easiest director for you to work with, and by the same token, are there any that made life difficult during filming?

As I have already mentioned Steven Spielberg was great...as were two of the others above and the other two were very difficult and temperamental but as I do not slag other professionals off I will leave it to your imagination as to guess who?..ha! ha! There were a few others over the years not mentioned above but believe it or not they were mostly English Directors...most American Directors were great.. with the odd exception...perhaps I was lucky as I didn't have more than about half a dozen conflicts with Directors over thirty years of filming...! I could tell you endless stories but it would be unfair to name names..if you can't say anything good about anyone then say nothing. However, having said that, all Film Actors should at least work for once in their life with Michael Winner..he is an experience like no other...I once worked with him for three weeks on 'The Wicked Lady'...I had the time of my life ..I couldn't stop laughing .....every day on the set was 'Electric'..who was he going to have a go at today...? A friend of mine once asked the late great Cowboy Actor Jack Elam (who played numerous baddies) why didn't he write a book about his life in films...to which he replied "As I cannot write the truth, I shall write nothing"...interesting! I have a copy of the postcard Jack Elam sent to my friend with this comment on it and signed by him.

As if films were not impressive enough, you have also had guest spots on some famous TV shows. British fans will recognize shows such as Inspector Morse and Poirot, while North American fans may have seen you in Magnum P.I., Matlock, and Loveboat. How does television compare to film work, and what are your fondest memories of these shows?

Yes, I worked on a few episodes of Inspector Morse, I knew John Thaw professionally, as I had worked with him a lot in the late Seventies on 'The Sweeney'..he was very pleasant but a fiercely private man..very modest...David Suchet is another great Actor with a very nice attitude to fellow Actors, being English it was always a great pleasure for me to meet another American Actor I had never met before..I had a dialogue scene with Andy Griffith in 'Matlock'...he was very quiet and pleasant..my favourite (who I worked with three times over the years) was Tom Selleck...he was great, so friendly..a very down to earth Actor..such a pleasure to work with always....I once worked with him for two weeks on a night- shoot on 'Lassiter'..can't remember much about 'Loveboat' apart from the fact I took my eldest daughter down to work on it as a child artiste when she was very young...I also worked on 'Hart to Hart' with Robert Wagner...I never did find out who had the biggest ego ..me or him..ha! ha! I think it was a draw!

You have also appeared on stage doing theatre, although you have admitted you much prefer film work. Do you have any favourite recollections of your time on stage, and do you have expanded roles in theater productions compared to your parts on film?

Many years ago when I was young I wanted to be a great Shakespearean Actor, as I had a good deep voice..but it wasn't to be..I think that if I was very famous I would still prefer to work in films..much more fun for me..it's a different medium..never understand those Film Actors who want to prove themselves on Stage and then come unstuck...each to his own..because you are a great Stage Actor does not necessarily make you a great Film Actor and vice-versa..there are a few exceptions in both cases...I once played the part of Flute the Bellows Mender in 'A Midsummer Night's Dream' in two performances in Germany when I was young in 1956...but that was my last Stage performance ever apart from Q and A Sessions at Memorabilia Shows..strangely. I never had much desire to do Theatre after that...in those days the 'Method' came out and most young aspiring Actors were very in awe and influenced by this new trend...Marlon Brando, James Dean, Rod Steiger, Paul Newman, etc and it started a whole new scene on the World film stage...to this day I am still a big James Dean fan..my house has many large framed pics of him...he is a symbol of my teenage years...more than anyone else..and had a great impact on me..I often wonder how he would have turned out in later years...but to this day he is still one of the biggest Cult figures ever in films...

A good number of the films you worked on have stood the test of time. Evidence of that can be seen in the remakes and/or sequels that have been recently released or are in production. Examples would be the Star Wars prequels, Indiana Jones 4, Superman Returns, and Batman Begins. What are your thoughts concerning the reappearance of these classic franchises to the silver screen today? Is there any chance you could make it 4 for 4 by making an appearance in Indiana Jones 4 and be in select company as one of the only actors to appear in every film of the franchise?

Ha! Ha! wouldn't that be great..I should be so lucky..I don't know why Harrison has left it so long to do ' Indy 4' ?He should have done a couple more, years ago...it's the old story ...some Actors do not want to be type-cast and wish to go on to other projects which don't always succeed..why worry, just take the money and run!..and entertain the public...like a lot of people I prefer the original three STAR WARS movies...4, 5 and 6...one American fan at C3 last year said..."Just think, if they make number 7 you could come back as General Renz as you didn't get killed off after capturing Han Solo... twenty three years later."..now there's food for thought?..George Lucas are you reading this? I thought 'Batman Begins' was terrific ...by far the best 'Batman' film I've seen..darker and more menacing..Christian Bale was great..a very good Actor...he's Welsh you know, like Anthony Hopkins and Richard Burton. I met him briefly when he was young, doing 'Empire of the Sun'.....I must have 'played my cards wrong'...look at him now....! Ah well!...one can but dream......

What projects are you currently working on, if any?

None, as I am more or less retired these days...I have been very lucky and tend to do a lot of Celebrity Shows around the World..I may look like 'Dorian Gray' ( Ha! Ha!) but I am 68 years old now ..mind you, still a bit younger than some of those other Star Wars Actors...we all do the Celebrity Shows together... we all have a lot of fun ...who'd have ever thought all those years ago that we would all still be appearing together in the name of Star Wars ......it's strange how the wheel turns in life isn't it? Sadly, I only met Michael Sheard once last year before his untimely passing.

I would like to finish the interview with a few questions concerning the fan experience.

Recent years have seen a shift from fans concentrating on the top billed stars, and taking much more interest in some of the people who played smaller roles and worked behind the scenes. Have you noticed this trend, and do you have any thoughts on it?

Of course, I and my colleagues are most grateful, as if it wasn't for the Fans we would not get the attention we are getting to do Shows..it's great but never in a million years did I think it would ever happen like it has to me... I love meeting the Fans and always give my all...I wouldn't be there otherwise. As I mentioned earlier I am big 'Western' fan and I was always interested in the bit-part Actors like Jack Elam, Lee Van Cleef , Leo Gordon, Robert J. Wilke and the like....without these great guys the Westerns would be nothing...Lee Van Cleef and Jack Elam went onto greater fame in later life after years of bit-parts, wasn't that great. So may I say a big thank you to all of those fans out there for their vote of confidence...please write to George Lucas and ask him to bring me back as General Renz..ha! ha!

Further proof of this increased interest are some of the things fans have given you in appreciation. In November 2005, British film magazine Empire conducted a poll, and your line in ROTJ was voted as the greatest Cult Moment in the film. The UK Garrison of the 501st Legion has made you an honorary member. The Norwich and District Star Wars Fan Club made you an honorary Executive Officer. Your role seems timeless, as these awards are coming from a film over 20 years old. How do you account for the longevity of Star Wars after all these years?

I really don't know..I have to pinch myself sometimes...it's amazing!..for twenty two years I heard nothing apart from the odd friend or relative who mentioned it and now it's gone mad...in the past 12 months I have been to several Shows in England, C3 in America, Japan, Germany three times, France, Belgium....and I have several Shows coming up for the rest of the year including one in Holland...years ago it was just another film acting job...now look at it..I sure was lucky getting that part as Lt. Renz...I think though that George Lucas has created a great bringing together of people from all over the World...wherever I go to Conventions in different countries there is no prejudice, no malice, no trouble just lots of people having great days out regardless of colour, language or background. Isn't that great ! Wouldn't it be wonderful if the whole World was like that...instead of always fighting amongst ourselves but then I suppose that is a Utopian vision that will never happen...at least Star Wars fans seem to have got it right! I don't know if George Lucas has ever thought about that but I think that will be his enduring legacy to the World and a fitting Epitaph for him, that he gave so many people so much pleasure....

You have made several appearances at conventions, not the least of which included Star Wars Celebration III in Indianapolis. How did you find that experience, and were you surprised at just how extensive the Star Wars fandom truly is? Do you have any upcoming appearances that fans can meet you at?

Celebration III was fantastic..I had the time of my life..it was manic..it was the Star Wars Show to end all Star Wars Shows..my feet didn't touch the ground..I recommend all Star Wars fans to try to get to Celebration 4 next May in Los Angeles ..it will be the biggest Star Wars Show ever...there will probably never be anything like it again...also check out... rebelscum.com ... on the Web, it's a great site..the only authorised dealer (by Lucasfilm) in the world to sell Star Wars pics...Official Pix. Later this year I shall be appearing at Shows in England...Bristol 30.7.06, Cambridge 12.8.06, Kempton Park 23/24.9.06, Norwich 12.11.06 and abroad in Holland 5.11.06.

Before we conclude this interview, do you have any words for the people reading this interview?

Thank you for taking the time to read it and I hope to some extent it has been a little informative about the Film and Modelling World.... I hope you didn't find it too boring and as the late Robert Mitchum once said..."It sure beats working...!".........finally, thanks for staying with it.... "YOU REBEL SCUM!"

p.s. It would be a real pleasure to meet you all at one of my Shows.

BARRIE HOLLAND...Lt. Renz...'Return of the Jedi'. .........Saturday, 15 July, 2006.

Thank you again ever so much for this fantastic opportunity. We wish you the best, and hope to see you at a convention soon!

Thank you so much for asking me, it's always a pleasure to do an interview for the dedicated fans all over the world.. and finally may I wish you all Luck, Laughs and Long Life.!........and as the late great Actor Anthony Quinn once wrote in his Autobiography, as he signed it for me......"I hope you find some truths here!"

your friend BARRIE HOLLAND.

Thanks to Barrie Holland for taking the time to take part in this interview.

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